tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post1187329920718549131..comments2023-06-28T10:04:44.463-06:00Comments on The Perils of Parallel: Sandy Bridge Graphics DisappointsGreg Pfisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-2198064367961314242011-08-16T14:58:24.963-06:002011-08-16T14:58:24.963-06:00thank you for your post, i appreciate your findi...thank you for your post, i appreciate your findings!<br />im using my 2500K sandy to do testing with OSX Lion etc,<br />so its going to be rather interesting how the Apple drivers<br />hold up to WOW or something like that with the intergraded<br />graphics of sandy bridge.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13581539278451883903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-83072297954359090992011-07-13T20:20:47.204-06:002011-07-13T20:20:47.204-06:00Thanks, Kue. Looks like A8-3500M + 6630M can make ...Thanks, Kue. Looks like A8-3500M + 6630M can make a very usable system. Now to search for a laptop that has it and otherwise does what I want. :-)Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-5096406675261592862011-07-13T14:37:09.408-06:002011-07-13T14:37:09.408-06:00Greetings Mr. Pfister. I ran across your blog whi...Greetings Mr. Pfister. I ran across your blog while googling the A6-3400M. Good stuff. I am glad to see someone else is disappointed by sandy bridge (though I am thoroughly biased). Anyway, I ran across this article @ AnandTech that rates the A8's performance. thought it might pick up your spirits when it comes to fusion APU. <br /><br />http://www.anandtech.com/show/4444/amd-llano-notebook-review-a-series-fusion-apu-a8-3500m/11Kuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13865234121108604138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-90850756906274533492011-05-23T13:52:40.909-06:002011-05-23T13:52:40.909-06:00Oh, and @Anonymous\2 - I didn't mean my initia...Oh, and @Anonymous\2 - I didn't mean my initial response to be dismissive. I count just reading my stuff as support. Agreement - feh, nice sometimes. And I'm glad you expanded on why you disagreed, since it helped me find something to clarify.Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-83701892367938308282011-05-23T13:45:35.674-06:002011-05-23T13:45:35.674-06:00@Anonymous\2 - From your response, I believe I'...@Anonymous\2 - From your response, I believe I've not communicated to you what I'm getting at with these posts.<br /><br />I'm not saying OpenCL is better than CUDA, or Intel's graphic architecture is superior to Nvidia's, or Nvidia doesn't all but own the HPC side of GPGPU use. I agree with you that all those things are false.<br /><br />All I am saying is that right now, users of Nvidia GPGPUs get a tremendous price break because their products are effectively subsidized by high-volume low-end products. And that high-volume, low-end section of the market is going to get sucked up into "free" on-chip integrated graphics.<br /><br />Nvidia & CUDA aren't going away. They're just going to get more expensive, possibly a lot more expensive. Eventually. And not overnight. It's not going to start happening now with Sandy Bridge, as I originally thought, but it just might start (see update to post) with Ivy Bridge.Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-28214314134984709342011-05-21T23:41:01.297-06:002011-05-21T23:41:01.297-06:00@ghostmonk: If you pointed where Greg was right ab...@ghostmonk: If you pointed where Greg was right about CUDA, and where I was wrong in stating that his write-ups are off the mark, then your opinion on my comments would have credibility; but by just calling for censorship, not so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-29096664453885871392011-05-21T10:55:17.281-06:002011-05-21T10:55:17.281-06:00Anonymous\2 is a reminder of why open and free can...Anonymous\2 is a reminder of why open and free can often be a complete pain in the ass. <br /><br />Greg, Thanks for your comments on SandyBridge... I'm buying this chip pretty soon, and wasn't aware of this information.ghostmonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01779878211880538737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-39802996849392148612011-05-19T06:56:59.356-06:002011-05-19T06:56:59.356-06:00(I'm "@Anonymous\2"): Just to clarif...(I'm "@Anonymous\2"): Just to clarify, I was referring to all your posts discussing CUDA, and your "Nvidia-based Cheap Supercomputing Coming to an End" post in particular. Sorry if you're offended, but I plain don't like people talking about stuff they don't know, especially if despite of this they write pompously on topic, like you do. If you got your hands dirty at least a bit on GPGPU programming, you'd readily realize that considering Sandy Bridge as some sort of NVIDIA killer (especially after Larabee fiasco), then talking about how NVIDIA is stupid not to adopt OpenCL, etc. is just plain crap. Now, note that I'm not any sort of NVIDIA fanboy, but the plain fact is that they own GPGPU market at the moment, and that they are keeping working hard to improve their solutions. So, like it or not, anyone planning to do any sort of serious HPC-related work in coming years will just have to stick to NVIDIA, period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-3526774560534795822011-05-18T22:27:22.922-06:002011-05-18T22:27:22.922-06:00@Anonymous\3 - I did see that one. In fact, that a...@Anonymous\3 - I did see that one. In fact, that article has inspired another post, possibly my next. Not for the tech, which I don't have enough detail on to evaluate (but it seems dubious). The writeup pushed one of my sensitive buttons.Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-19459801797567305222011-05-18T22:26:57.057-06:002011-05-18T22:26:57.057-06:00@Ed & @Ryan - I agree with Ryan (mostly). A 5G...@Ed & @Ryan - I agree with Ryan (mostly). A 5GHz Sandy Bridge is pretty spectacular, I agree. However, I'm interested in how on-chip integration of decent graphics wipes out an existing volume market in GPUs, with implications that go up the food chain -- which is why my initial post on this was titled "Nvidia-based Cheap Supercomputing Coming to an End".<br /><br /><br />The laptop issue is just for my personal use / enjoyment, not the whole story.Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-32570145082715734232011-05-18T22:25:42.427-06:002011-05-18T22:25:42.427-06:00@Anonymous\2 - Thank you for your support.@Anonymous\2 - Thank you for your support.Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-82052891122009613292011-05-18T22:25:17.226-06:002011-05-18T22:25:17.226-06:00@Anonymous\1 - Collecting my posts is easy to do, ...@Anonymous\1 - Collecting my posts is easy to do, since other than the one pointed to by my immediately prior post, there weren't any. It's been a fallow period, caused by a lack of interesting events and the arrival of two puppies who limited concentration; they're now house-trained and also (hopefully!) trained not to yap incessantly at every blown leaf, so at least that distraction has been subdued. More posts will come, fairly soon.Greg Pfisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12651996181651540140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-2249463551690347162011-05-18T19:22:24.255-06:002011-05-18T19:22:24.255-06:00Greg,
Love your posts. Do you have any thoughts ...Greg,<br /><br />Love your posts. Do you have any thoughts on the architecture below for accelerating graphics? <br /><br />http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2011-05-03/startup_launches_manycore_floating_point_acceleration_technology.html<br /><br />Totally irrelevant or a possibility if integrated on the same die?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-71079536863032697252011-05-18T14:04:59.864-06:002011-05-18T14:04:59.864-06:00Ed, I don't think Greg's opinion on Sandy ...Ed, I don't think Greg's opinion on Sandy Bridge's integrated graphics performance is will be changed by your systems, which ADD AN EXTERNAL GRAPHICS CARD in order to improve performance. This is doubly true since what Greg really cares about is laptop performance.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15514653089603456867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-765464228276919302011-05-18T07:54:29.607-06:002011-05-18T07:54:29.607-06:00The sandy Bridge systems that we build all hit 5.0...The sandy Bridge systems that we build all hit 5.0 GHz+ and we add the GTX 580 graphics card to the mix to really provide outstanding performance for video. See LiquidNitrogenOverclocking.com for some options that will probably change your mind about the Sandy Bridge systems.Ed Tricehttp://www.liquidnitrogenoverclocking.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-60835502290653586272011-05-18T01:23:22.781-06:002011-05-18T01:23:22.781-06:00Nice you are admitting you've been talking non...Nice you are admitting you've been talking nonsense - as most of the time you do so...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3155908228127841862.post-4590665067020545602011-05-17T17:08:47.648-06:002011-05-17T17:08:47.648-06:00so glad to see you post again Greg .. is there a w...so glad to see you post again Greg .. is there a way to collect your articles from the new site or atleast post links hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com